Why No One Talks About Race Anymore

Crossposted from Moral Questions Weblog.

Digby wrote this today:

I've been talking a lot about race since Katrina, and I talked about it during the election too. It's not because I'm generally obsessed with the topic, but because I think it's the most politically significant issue we never talk about seriously. What else is a personal soap box good for, if not that?

Matt Yglesias notices some intersting numbers today that speak to my point:

Apropos of nothing in particular, take a look at the exit poll data from Mississippi, where George W. Bush picked up the votes of 85 percent of the white population and just 10 percent of the African-American vote. In a state whose electorate is 65-percent white, that led to a hefty 60-40 win for the incumbent. Mississippi's an unusually stark case, but not all that much of an outlier. Georgia saw 75 percent of whites and 12 percent of blacks pull the lever for Bush. It was 75-9 in Louisiana, 78-15 in South Carolina, and a comparatively minor 63-6 in Arkansas (generally speaking, whites are most monolithically Republican in the least-white states like Mississippi and more open to Democrats in whiter states like Arkansas).

All of which is just to say that an awful lot of the post-election talk about "culture" and its impact on voting serves to obscure the extent to which a lot of politics is about race. In Mississippi, Bush got a larger percentage of the vote from people who "somewhat dissaprove" of his administration than he did from black voters. He did better among self-identified Democrats than he did among blacks, and far better (23 percent against 10 percent) among self-identified liberals than with non-whites. I'm not sure exactly what follows from that, and I appreciate that commentators don't like to raise the point in order to avoid just engaging in naive allegations of racism, but it's really, really not possible to understand the politics of the South without delving into this stuff.

It's also not possible to understand why the US is the only first world nation that has rejected national health care and a robust safety net without delving into it. And it's not possible to explain these maps, in which we see the power of the southern based party having reasserted itself, without delving into it.

It's fundamental to understanding our country, our politics and our culture. Unlike any other western country, we had to fight a bloody civil war to end slavery in the middle of the 19th century and we lived with segregation for another century after that. This is built into the fabric of our nation. It's naive to ignore it.

It really is a truly sad thing that no one wants to talk about racism anymore.  How often have prominent members of the black community's point of view on the subject been marginalized and even rejected by a MSM petrified at the idea of offending its target white demographics?  How many times did we hear this past couple weeks, Democratic politicians reject the idea that if it had been white people down there, the president would have been all over the situation?  Race has been such a bitter question in the country somehow we've gotten to the point where its become a kind repressed ideology: denied and reject consciously, yet plainly obvious in our culture and media to anyone whose not white.  

My bet: there's a hell of a lot of issues that cut just a little to deep for baby-boomers.  It may well be a generation before we ever revisit these questions again.


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These Things Are True. (none / 0)

After many years on this planet, I've come to the conclusion that the only thing (besides the sadism of a small minority) that sustains "racism" is a sort of herd mentality. You get a group of people together, and Presto! -- they think they all have to agree. This is a fundamental failure of our so-called "educational system."
by blues on Wed Sep 21, 2005 at 11:01:50 PM EST

race & media (none / 0)

The media coverage of Katrina that
I've watched has been surprisingly
good for the most part.

But every once in a while CNN
has reported racist hearsay with
at best second-hand or third-hand
sources.

Rapes and murders in the Convention
Center? Sure, that's plausible -- look
at all those niggers seen in the video --
and you know how they are !

We did see the head of New Orleans
police say that they had received no
complaint from a rape victim -- or
anyone claiming to have witnessed
any of those dramatic crimes reported.

But just a few days later, bubblehead
crime commentator on CNN was
retelling lurid tales of rape and murder
in the Superdome and the Convention
Center -- even a rape of a 12-year-old ! ! !
Well, sure. Niggers will do that.

Oh, will they ? Someone dragging a
screaming female child into a restroom
and no one tried to stop the crime in
progress?

Well, you and I might have been too
scared, too intimidated, to dare try to
stop the nigger from having his way
with the innocent girl.

There's no doubt many bad characters
live in New Orleans -- when they aren't
locked up at Angola State Prison. Uh,
haven't we heard elsewhere and at
other times that child molestors have
a VERY hard time in the pen ? Even
convicts hate men who rape children.

And none of the prison-hardened
tough guys at the Convention Center
stepped up to stop a 12 year-old child
from being raped ?

Or, maybe no rape happened.

An urban legend ? A racist legend.
If you don't believe that blacks are
ready to rape any time opportunity
knocks, the story is NOT plausible.

Maybe CNN and bubblehead owe
an apology to the young black men
of New Orleans --  who have been
slandered repeatedly as rapists, and
baby-rapists at that -- with no real
evidence to back up the vicious slur.

by Woody on Wed Sep 21, 2005 at 11:11:59 PM EST

People are afraid to be honest on this subject (none / 0)

...and until this changes, the condition of nondiscussion will continue.

Race is not the simplistic issue that the world makes it out to be.

In addition, subtle racism is easier for people to ignore than overt racism.

by v2aggie2 on Thu Sep 22, 2005 at 01:28:04 AM EST

Race , class, and America (none / 0)

In today's America race and class are a pair.  Upper class and upper middle class blacks are somewhat welcome in business and government.  I'm reminded here of Winged Foot Country Club that boasted (and indeed it did) one black member: Bryant Gumbel.  Everybody else, stay out.

But if most blacks are on the fringes, than poor blacks are in some outer zone.  My guess is that more blacks (and poor whites)are disenfranchised by laws barring felons and ex-felons today than were ever excluded by the poll tax.  Talk about a high tech lynching!

The dirty little secret is that as bad as the Mississippi vote was in 2000 (Bush got 82% of the white vote and 11% of the black vote IIRC) it was even worse in 2004.  Black and latino voters are crammed into gerrymandered districts allowing for lots of 60-40 Republican districts and a lot fewer 80-20 or 90-10 minority districts.  The result is Florida, a 50-50 state with 18 Rs and 7 Ds or Ohio (12-6).

The strange career of Jim Crow has been revived as "compassionate conservatism."  Just as the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy nor Rpman nor an Empire, Compassionate Conservatism is neither compassionate nor conservative.  It is reckless and wasteful and outside the traditions of our country.

by David Kowalski on Thu Sep 22, 2005 at 10:01:52 AM EST


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